The Will Sexton Files

And that's kind of the goal. And I think the biggest, you know, uh, obstacles to that, at least from my side, is is this white nationalist standpoint where it's this very emotional response. Like one of the things I, and I think this just comes from me being a wasp, we're very notoriously kind of cold and calculated and very like level heads. Like it is a lot of emotion. Like it's a lot of emotion. And it it's this very emotional response where they see and what like I'll give a great example. You you see a lot of these like white nationalist types who really aren't white nationalists, you know, not the people I debated. People who they say that they're white nationalists, but then you actually sit with them and talk to them calmly and eventually they'll admit like, "Yeah, okay. No, actually I like this guy and that guy. You know what? Maybe like we we just need to shut down the border and like figure things out, right? and they're not really these avowed white. And I think the reason that they think they are avowed white nationalists and have that rhetoric is because of this emotion.